Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file
and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw file, part of a pano sequence I shot today. http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in Silkypix on the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr composite Peter |
Hello Peter,
very impressing example indeed! Seems like I should finally try this myself, since I normally shoot bracketed JPGs and suffer from things like moving clouds a lot :-) Regards, Philipp panovrx schrieb: > Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw file, > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in Silkypix on > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr composite > > Peter > > > > ------------------------------------ > > |
Hm I still try with TuFuse and setting -b -2 -b +2
but I am not satisfied with the results so far. But it sould be a easy way to create HDR like images. Ciao mike www.360de.de ---------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]Im Auftrag von Philipp B. Koch Gesendet: Montag, 24. März 2008 12:57 An: [hidden email] Betreff: Re: [PanoToolsNG] Pseudo HDR Enfuse vs. Silkypix direct highlight recovery Hello Peter, very impressing example indeed! Seems like I should finally try this myself, since I normally shoot bracketed JPGs and suffer from things like moving clouds a lot :-) Regards, Philipp panovrx schrieb: > Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw file, > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in Silkypix on > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr composite > > Peter > > > > ------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1337 - Release Date: 20.03.2008 20:10 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Very good sample !
THANKS for sharing Peter. I'm, gonna try that too. I'm always learning from you. Cheers AYRTON On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:12 AM, panovrx <[hidden email]> wrote: > Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw file, > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in Silkypix on > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr composite > > Peter > > > > ------------------------------------ > > -- > > > > -- ------------ | A Y R | | T O N | ------------ + 55 21 9982 6313 http://ayrton360.com http://rio.360cities.net http://vrfolio.com http://ayrton.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Oh certainly, that looks very well done. I've been using a variant of e.
krauses actions for hdr for a couple years now. It's very similar to enfuse except for some slight haloing if it push it too far. Using enfuse, plus the actions, leads to an ultra-configurable exposure technique yielding natural results. With using 1 single raw, taken bracketed, you can select the right exposure which preserves the important highlights, discard the rest, and then do your pushing. For difficult outdoor scenes, there almost isn't any other way. Except for FDR tools which can do the automatic difference map and still blend in your other natural exposures. In photoshop, it's a bit of a pain to create the difference layers/masks quickly. Your conclusion is identical to my preliminary text of tufuse with jpg. My only stopping point since tufuses update, is TCA from tufuse's automatic raw conversions. For a normal lens, tufuse should be really really interesting. I am thinking.. by examining the exposures of a bracket series.. perhaps different weights could be placed on contiguous areas where the series starts to clip quicker. For example for a middle series bracket an exterior window will start to clip, as opposed to an interior light. Normally, to get the exterior windows down quicker, the whole scene must adjusted. By examining which areas clip first, the rest of the scenes overall brightness could be better preserved. Manually, I had success with enfuse, and a dark exposure, then I masked out the window, and then I did a channel mask and remove the enfused shadows on the dark exposure. This created probably the most eye realistic exposure combining an interior/outside scene I've done in while. All in all, people are expecting HDR to make scene decisions for them, and this creates some frustrations. But perhaps, the explained method might begin to bridge the gap? Sacha Griffin Southern Digital Solutions LLC http://www.southern-digital.com http://www.seeit360.net 404-551-4275 From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of panovrx Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:13 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Pseudo HDR Enfuse vs. Silkypix direct highlight recovery Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw file, part of a pano sequence I shot today. http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in Silkypix on the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr composite Peter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
I was thinking a more accurate weighting system, would be a system to
assign larger weights to darker exposures based on the pixels around it. For example, your pupil will adapt to a large window much more than a candle of the same exposure seen from across a room. This would prevent alot of ugliness that enfuse gives to interior lights, and small areas of highlights. -s --- In [hidden email], "Sacha Griffin" <sachagriffin@...> wrote: > > Oh certainly, that looks very well done. I've been using a variant of e. > krauses actions for hdr for a couple years now. It's very similar to enfuse > except for some slight haloing if it push it too far. > > Using enfuse, plus the actions, leads to an ultra-configurable exposure > technique yielding natural results. > > With using 1 single raw, taken bracketed, you can select the right exposure > which preserves the important highlights, discard the rest, and then do your > pushing. For difficult outdoor scenes, there almost isn't any other way. > > Except for FDR tools which can do the automatic difference map and still > blend in your other natural exposures. In photoshop, it's a bit of a pain to > create the difference layers/masks quickly. > > > > Your conclusion is identical to my preliminary text of tufuse with jpg. My > only stopping point since tufuses update, is TCA from tufuse's automatic > raw conversions. For a normal lens, tufuse should be really really > interesting. > > > > I am thinking.. by examining the exposures of a bracket series.. perhaps > different weights could be placed on contiguous areas where the series > starts to clip quicker. > > For example for a middle series bracket an exterior window will start to > clip, as opposed to an interior light. Normally, to get the exterior > down quicker, the whole scene must adjusted. > > By examining which areas clip first, the rest of the scenes overall > brightness could be better preserved. > > > > Manually, I had success with enfuse, and a dark exposure, then I masked out > the window, and then I did a channel mask and remove the enfused shadows on > the dark exposure. This created probably the most eye realistic exposure > combining an interior/outside scene I've done in while. > > > > All in all, people are expecting HDR to make scene decisions for them, and > this creates some frustrations. But perhaps, the explained method might > begin to bridge the gap? > > > > Sacha Griffin > > Southern Digital Solutions LLC > > http://www.southern-digital.com > > http://www.seeit360.net > > 404-551-4275 > > > > > > > > From: [hidden email] > Behalf Of panovrx > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:13 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [PanoToolsNG] Pseudo HDR Enfuse vs. Silkypix direct highlight > recovery > > > > Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw file, > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in Silkypix on > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr composite > > Peter > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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Splendid, Peter. Thanks for sharing that example. Was planning on
testing that myself, just to see how's Enfuse dealing with pseudo HDR kind of raw input. Clearly sharp and steady. This would be the preferred technique from now on then, shooting for Enfuse when the variations in lighting conditions aren't very extreme or when there are simply too many moving objects in the pano. That aside, is that the real life Travis Bickle, to the right of the table? Didn't know Scorsese/De Niro based him on the real life character, now featured in your pano. ;) http://youtube.com/watch?v=NMaTfAn7KAs&feature=related "You taking the picture of me?" "Well I'm the only one here..." "I'm standing here, you make a move... you make a move..." LOL |
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:12:32 +0900, panovrx <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw file, > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in Silkypix on > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr composite This is very impressive. Until now I have not used Enfuse in this way, and I can see one GREAT advantage... no problems with camera/object movement between multiple bracketed exposures! I intend going back to unipod shooting, and that necessarily involves more camera movement than a tripod. And if there are people around, you always get object movement. I assume you absolutely must not overexpose the highlights, though, as the detail can't be recovered if it isn't there in the first place. I have Silkypix, and have been pleased with it, but found the whole business of grappling with HDR too computer intensive. Enfuse freed me from that, giving results as good as I could obtain by trial and error using HDR, but brought its own problems. I must try using the batch mode of Silkypix to produce a series of exposures in this way and then combine them with Enfuse. The only problem may be the high noise levels in my D200 if I try to boost exposures for the shadow areas. Hmmm. Maybe it will be worth swapping for a D300? Roger W. -- Work: www.adex-japan.com Play: www.usefilm.com/member/roger |
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Now... just a minute!
If the data exists in the raw file, the fact that it can't be extracted/expressed all in one go would seem to be (in this case) a failure/limitation of "Silkypix." It seems crazy to have to render 4 pseudo bracketed exposures from a single raw file, then run those through Enfuse simply to make visible the data that is ALREADY THERE in the original raw file. Help me understand why the "problem" isn't simply a limitation of the raw conversion process. eo On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:12 AM, panovrx wrote: > Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw > file, > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in > Silkypix on > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr > composite > > Peter |
Eric O'Brien wrote:
> Now... just a minute! > > If the data exists in the raw file, the fact that it can't be > extracted/expressed all in one go would seem to be (in this case) a > failure/limitation of "Silkypix." > > It seems crazy to have to render 4 pseudo bracketed exposures from a > single raw file, then run those through Enfuse simply to make visible > the data that is ALREADY THERE in the original raw file. > > Help me understand why the "problem" isn't simply a limitation of the > raw conversion process. The "limitation" is that enfuse has clever tricks that silkypix doesn't. Where this is a bug or a missing feature is a matter of philosophy. BugBear |
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Hi Eric,
> Help me understand why the "problem" isn't simply a limitation of the > raw conversion process. The raw convertion is limited by you and the capacity of the raw file information in terms of bit depth storage, the AD converter and sensor in the cam. Its a digital limitation. Anlog film has still more contrast range than any sensor can do. If you convert a raw of a well exposed image at EV 0 your exposure has a certain contrast range. Highlights, Midtones and Shadows, which make up your image. With shifting the EV values in raw (range depends on the bit rate of the AD and sensor) you can increase the range. +EV recovers more shadow detail and -EV recovers more highlight detail. Hence exposes the areas not covered by EV 0 better. By combining all well exposed areas in Enfuse (that is what <Enfuse> does- it uses only the well or best exposed pixels) You get an increased dynamic range close to film. With 12 bit slr you can get 4 EV and with 14bit cams you can get 6 EV ranges depending on your exposure within one raw file......now just add bracketing of raw to that and you can supercede analog film and get HDR. Cheers, Milko -- Milko K. Amorth 360° Immersive Imaging Productions VRCanada.ca Vancouver.360cities.net Ph:604.561.5101 fx: 604.909.5125 Skype: VRdundee Adobe Photographers Directory: tinyurl.com/2e3tnq Flickr: flickr.com/photos/vrdundee/ Youtube: youtube.com/user/VRDundee Member of IVRPA.org (International VR Photography Association): ivrpa.org/user/1133 Member of the Panorama Tools Meeting Group Europe : panotools-meeting.com/ Contributor to the WorldWidePanorama.com Project ( University of California Berkeley) : tinyurl.com/233lkg Member of 360cities.net network VR portal ------------------------------------ -- <*> Wiki: http://wiki.panotools.org <*> User Guidelines: http://wiki.panotools.org/User_Guidelines <*> Nabble (Web) http://www.nabble.com/PanoToolsNG-f15658.html <*> NG Member Map http://www.panomaps.com/ng <*> Moderators/List Admins: [hidden email] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PanoToolsNG/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[hidden email] mailto:[hidden email] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [hidden email] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ |
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On Tuesday, April 01, 2008 at 9:26, Milko Amorth wrote:
> If you convert a raw of a well exposed image at EV 0 your exposure has a > certain contrast range. Highlights, Midtones and Shadows, which make up your > image. With shifting the EV values in raw (range depends on the bit rate of > the AD and sensor) you can increase the range. +EV recovers more shadow > detail and -EV recovers more highlight detail. Hence exposes the areas not > covered by EV 0 better. ...but you can extract the whole dynamic range in one go as well. A procedure for ACR is described on http://wiki.panotools.org/RAW_dynamic_range_extraction You get awfully flat images this way, but you can tonemap them later using Photomatix, FDRTools, Picturenaut or QTPFSGui, same as if it was a true HDR file. And of course you can extract different exposures and pass them to enfuse or tufuse. The benefit of this process is that you can stitch a panorama with such files and tonemap or enfuse later. This is of use, if the blender chooses different blending seams, which would lead to artifical ghosts... best regards Erik Krause http://www.erik-krause.de |
Hi Erik,
> ...but you can extract the whole dynamic range in one go as well. A > procedure for ACR is described on > http://wiki.panotools.org/RAW_dynamic_range_extraction > <http://wiki.panotools.org/RAW_dynamic_range_extraction> > Yes, of course. This tutorial is for bracketed exposures though. Which would give even a greater dynamic range. Eric's question was based on one raw file. The recovery from one raw file is remarkable even with well exposed images. I have done a comparison with an single image from Willy Kaemena from the ne Nikon D300 here: http://360image.de/test/d300raw_enfused.jpg This image was well exposed for mid toes and shadows and the highlights still recoverd well up to 4 stops. Note the skylight bar shadows. This cam is remarkable and enfuse makes it even more remarkable considering this is only raw exposure. > > You get awfully flat images this way, but you can tonemap them later > using Photomatix, FDRTools, Picturenaut or QTPFSGui, same as if it > was a true HDR file. > HDR, in my opinion is term far over used. When does HDR beginn? A couple of stops over and under digital exposure? This is not HDR to me, but rather LDR or an increased dynamic range. Comparing some of the so called HDR to 'real' HDR (32bits per channel) is not possible. Tonemapping has been my door stopper in this. I never got good results down mapping to 8 bits. > And of course you can extract different > exposures and pass them to enfuse or tufuse. > Right, that makes 'Enfuse' so natural. > > The benefit of this process is that you can stitch a panorama with > such files and tonemap or enfuse later. This is of use, if the > blender chooses different blending seams, which would lead to > artifical ghosts... > Right. In some instances blend plane export to enfuse works well, in some id doesn't The great thing about the new ACR is you can introduce old panos in raw and even push more out of them. > > Cheers, Milko -- Milko K.Amorth ph:604.561.5101 fx:604.909.5125 www.VRCanada.ca 360° Immersive Imaging Skype: VRdundee Check out the new release of Lucid Flash Viewer in HD! |
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Here is another example:
regular single extraction with Silkypix with highlight recovery: http://www.mediavr.com/curtains.jpg result with -2EV, 0EV, +1EV enfused extracted (16bit) images: http://www.mediavr.com/curtainsenfused.jpg you can see the exterior is still blown out (as there was nothing recorded in the original raw) but the curtains are much better generally I notice an improvement much more with highlights than shadows -- maybe if one really upped the shadow contrast in the plus EV extractions there would be more detail Peter http://www.mediavr.com/blog --- In [hidden email], "panovrx" <mediavr@...> wrote: > > Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better highlight > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw file, > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, even > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in Silkypix on > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as good > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 EVs > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a single > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr composite > > Peter > |
And here is the -2EV extracted image with levels applied to bring it
back up to the normal brightness (without clipping) http://www.mediavr.com/minuscurtains.jpg -- the highlights look much the same as the enfused image but the shadows and midtones are very flat Peter --- In [hidden email], "panovrx" <mediavr@...> wrote: > > Here is another example: > regular single extraction with Silkypix with highlight recovery: > http://www.mediavr.com/curtains.jpg > > result with -2EV, 0EV, +1EV enfused extracted (16bit) images: > http://www.mediavr.com/curtainsenfused.jpg > > you can see the exterior is still blown out (as there was nothing > recorded in the original raw) but the curtains are much better > > generally I notice an improvement much more with highlights than > shadows -- maybe if one really upped the shadow contrast in the plus > EV extractions there would be more detail > > Peter > http://www.mediavr.com/blog > > > > > --- In [hidden email], "panovrx" <mediavr@> wrote: > > > > Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better > highlight > > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw > file, > > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, > even > > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in > Silkypix on > > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as > good > > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 > EVs > > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a > single > > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr > composite > > > > Peter > > > |
Thanks for the comparison. I'd say enfuse brings digital over the top, to
provide even better quality than an expert film photographer could do. Sorry for my english. That almost make sense enough to understand. :/ Has enfuse leaked to the normal photographer community or just us pano heads? On 4/4/08, panovrx <[hidden email]> wrote: > > And here is the -2EV extracted image with levels applied to bring it > back up to the normal brightness (without clipping) > http://www.mediavr.com/minuscurtains.jpg > -- the highlights look much the same as the enfused image but the > shadows and midtones are very flat > > Peter > > --- In [hidden email] <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, > "panovrx" <mediavr@...> wrote: > > > > Here is another example: > > regular single extraction with Silkypix with highlight recovery: > > http://www.mediavr.com/curtains.jpg > > > > result with -2EV, 0EV, +1EV enfused extracted (16bit) images: > > http://www.mediavr.com/curtainsenfused.jpg > > > > you can see the exterior is still blown out (as there was nothing > > recorded in the original raw) but the curtains are much better > > > > generally I notice an improvement much more with highlights than > > shadows -- maybe if one really upped the shadow contrast in the plus > > EV extractions there would be more detail > > > > Peter > > http://www.mediavr.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > --- In [hidden email] <PanoToolsNG%40yahoogroups.com>, > "panovrx" <mediavr@> wrote: > > > > > > Here is an example of how extracting multiple EVs from a raw file > > > and using Enfuse on them to make a composite can give better > > highlight > > > recovery than standard raw software tools used directly. > > > > > > This is an crop from a jpg made directly with Silkypix from a raw > > file, > > > part of a pano sequence I shot today. > > > http://www.mediavr.com/desk.jpg > > > You can see the details on the papers on the desk are blown out, > > even > > > though I am using the maximum highlight recovery setting in > > Silkypix on > > > the raw file (and Silkypix has good highlight recovery -- not as > > good > > > as Raw Therapee or DXO maybe but still pretty good). > > > > > > Here is the same desk in the stitched pano ... using Enfuse on 4 > > EVs > > > images extracted with Silkypix from each component raw image (a > > single > > > exposure raw sequence). (-3EV, -1.5EV, 0EV, 2EV) > > > http://www.mediavr.com/judging.htm > > > > > > the highlight detail is a lot better in the Enfused pseudo hdr > > composite > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > -- Sacha Griffin Southern Digital Solutions LLC http://www.southern-digital.com http://www.seeit360.net 404-551-4275 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
--- In [hidden email], "Sacha Griffin" <sachagriffin@...> wrote:
> > Has enfuse leaked to the normal photographer community or just us pano > heads? Lightroom with an Enfuse plug-in works well: http://timothyarmes.com/lrenfuse.php Haven't used this one - Bracketeer: http://pangeasoft.net/pano/bracketeer/ |
bracketeer works great has sigma and mu sliders and a large live
preview with detail preview and automagic image alignment too. brian makes frequent updates and is very responsive you get a panopreviewer license with it too michael medina http://pdxvr.com On 04 Apr 2008, at 17:58, John Vitollo wrote: > --- In PanoToolsNG@ yahoogroups. com, "Sacha Griffin" > <sachagriffin@ ...> wrote: > > > > Has enfuse leaked to the normal photographer community or just us > pano > > heads? > > Lightroom with an Enfuse plug-in works well: > > http://timothyarmes .com/lrenfuse. php > > Haven't used this one - Bracketeer: > > http://pangeasoft. net/pano/ bracketeer/ > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Has enfuse leaked to the normal photographer community or just us pano heads? ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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I'm consider myself a normal photographer, and I found enfuse to be so excited, especially doing pseudo-HDR panorama with RAW files:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=745894 --huy Has enfuse leaked to the normal photographer community or just us pano heads? ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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